The other simple technique is simply to ask lots of girls out! don't take rejection personally. I know lots of married guys that wouldn't simply wouldn't have done so had they not asked lots of girls out - even if you get rejected by 10 girls in a row in an extreme situation, girl 11 will probably love to go out with you and often into bed with you. So if you don't ask, then you will never know, and you will miss out on a lot of good times there in the process. So be bold, be brave, ask them out and I promise you that you will have no problems whatsoever in getting to that girl of your dreams.

So how do you start talking to a girl though, in the pub? Well, short of just going up to them and starting to chat to them as you should have now had practice from if you have followed through the above, you can always try the below methods

Drop a note by her feet - say a fiver. Pick it up, and say to her 'excuse me, but you just dropped a fiver' - she will do one of two things. If she says it is not hers say 'oh well, there's a fiver here, why don't I buy us both a drink?' or something to that effect - whatever you are most comfortable with, if that sounds a little too corny to you then simply offer to buy her a drink with it since you found it lying there, and she will be appreciative and that will give you a starter to a conversation. The other option is she will claim the money - bad news here is that you lose a fiver, but in the vast majority of cases she will offer to buy you a drink with it as she knows it isn't really hers. In the small number of cases where she will just take it, then it still provides an entry point to a conversation where you can start trying to get on with her and buying her a drink and...!

Another method that has been used successfully on me is the sob story, the good old sympathy vote! Whilst women don't particularly find losers attractive, if there is a genuine sob story sold on us we often fall for it - being emotional creatures unlike most men we actually feel for guys that have had lots of bad stories, and will often go out with them initially because of this. Then when you get the dates you can then start to be really charming etc., and get them to go out with you for who you are and not just cos they feel sorry for you. This might sound a bit like manipulation, but it works! I have fallen for it at least one time that I know about and actually slept with the guy (though I had had a lot to drink by then!) but I didn't care because when I got to know him he turned out to be a great bloke!

So what happens with the sob story? Well, when you have started to get a girl talking, using whatever method works for you best, whether just straight talking to them or the good old note or coin drop technique, then you start to subtlety - without whining - paint this picture of yourself as some poor bloke that has been taken advantage of lots in the past, and has not had much success with women before. Either mention things like you were used for sex(!) you wish but always a good one, or that often you get stood up etc., if you think that that one is more realistic, because it is very hard to pull the offer one off as a sob story! So basically the idea is to get them to feel sorry for you - you get messed about by women and treated badly because you are a nice bloke, they either don't turn up for dates, or just generally wrap you around their finger and make you do everything for them.

If they are expressing sympathy and buying into the story, then you turn it up a notch. Emphasise your caring side, and that it's so sad because you just want a nice girl to take care of, so that you can mutually appreciate each other, and you want someone to treat really well and so on, and a deep relationship etc, - most women love this sort of stuff. It might sound sickenly sweet to you, but when you've been to see films that have these sort of parts to them, when you cringe there are usually girls going 'aaah - bless- that's so sweet - why aren't all men like that?' If you can get them to feel sorry for you in a nice way and you appear genuine and that you really do want a proper relationship, then often they will try and redress the balance by going on a date with you, and when that has happened you can really get to know them inside out - or in the case that this worked on me, he got to know me pretty intimately pretty quickly! Not that that's what you want to happen though, is it? Remember, you're a nice bloke!

What other techniques are there for starting the ball rolling, as it were? Well, you can think of as many as you like, really. But basically it all comes down to the fact that you will have to start talking to them at some stage.

You are probably wondering 'what about chat-up lines?' well again, this depends on the woman. Some of them hate them, but others love them. If someone delivers a good chat-up line on me, then I might well respond. I see them as a bit of fun and show that the bloke has a sense of humour. However, most things won't really work, especially the old classics, they just tend to annoy women, you know

"get your coat, you're pulled"
"that dress looks great on you, but it would look better on my bedroom floor. Wanna test my theory?"

Those sort of arrogant ones just tend to turn virtually all women off. If you are going to use a chat-up line to break the ice (And preferably do so when the girl has had a drink or two since she is more likely to laugh than grimace then!!!), then make them complimentary. Some things are a bit too sweet again, so take care

"my mate says that angels don't exist, so would you care to come over and talk to him to prove that he is wrong?"
again, that's complimentary, but, well, a little bit too sickly sweet don't you think? However, it does get more elaborate, and worse:

"hey, I was looking up the sky last night at the constellations there, and I was slightly puzzled. Have you ever done that?"
"what do you mean?"
"well I didn't think it was as light as normal. But now I know why. It's because the brightest, loveliest star in the sky has fallen to earth. But now that I’m talking to you, I have just found her"

all that does is make you want to reach for the sick bucket, even for the most romantic at heart woman! So just take care. Something short and snappy is usually what does the best, and if you can do it with a little cheeky grin then so much the better. If you are going to use chat-up lines, then you have to be quite confident with them - if you stumble over them or blush when you use them then you lose the sort of smooth guy routine which can get you a big advantage, and end up looking like a bit of an idiot instead and being laughed at. And you don't really want to be laughed at.

So you should try something along the lines, if you are trying to get chatting to a girl via the chat-up line, of "could you tell me what your name is please, so I know who I'm in love with"

something short and humorous like that should do the trick. The other good thing with chat-up lines is that you tend to know straight away whether the girl is interested in you or not. If you simply offer to buy a girl a drink, then pretty much all the time she is going to accept the offer - free drink, whether or not she likes you - and you just have to hope that she does or spend the money! But with the chat-up line, if she doesn't she will either go off to her mates, or groan and turn away and walk off, or just say 'that's stupid' or something like that! However, if she laughs and stays facing you, then that is good news. Now you can offer to buy her a drink and show her that you're not really that corny in real life, and get to know her better. I've had a few good nights having gone home with some bloke who has used a funny chat-up line on me. All I'll say is, if you do use them, be prepared to be laughed off a few times, but then you never did get that girl of your dreams by taking such things personally, did you?

Other techniques that can introduce you to a woman are simply through friends. If you don't mind the potential embarrassment of something like a double date, then do that. Or even a blind date if you can cope with such things! At least with that you are guaranteed an audience for a certain period of time, and perhaps a girlfriend at the end of it. Or if not then in most cases you will at least get a new friend, who herself has girlfriends - and one of those might just turn out to be that woman of your dreams. either way they are all good experiences.

But friends of friends are often good - so one technique is simply to ask your female friends to either set you up on a blind date or simply to hang around her and get invited to the parties she has with her friends, where there will be lots of females around in a social situation. The good thing about is that the technique includes an instant conversation piece - at the party or whatever you have a subject in common to get things started - talk about how you know the friend in question, and ask how long the girl has known her etc., then that can lead into how she met her - through work? at school? or whatever is relevant.

Once you are into the conversation, see if you can get into seeing if there is any chance of romance between you. If not, then you can always move onto the next girl, though do so subtlety. I have a male friend who is a really nice bloke, but when he's chatting to a girl he is really enthusiastic. Then if he suddenly finds out that she has a boyfriend, you can sort of just see his interest switch off and his face drop - something that the girls don't really appreciate either since it gives the impression that he was only talking to them on the chance that he could get some sex.

He's actually quite a nice bloke and just wanted a girlfriend, so you should always be careful of the signals that you send out when you are on the pull. You don't want a reputation as a woman-eater now, do you?!

So, that's a variety of methods and techniques to start talking to women. Be self-confident, charming, smile and have a sense of humour in your conversations and success will not be far away.